Questions regarding Article 41

OyamaMahiro

业余无线电台只能用于相互通信、技术研究和自我训练，其中的相互通信应该如何理解
比如我和朋友有证，可以在骑车的时候相互通信吗？但是好像又构成长时间占用频道，这个长时间也没有详细解释，怎么算长时间，应该如何理解。
相互通信是不是应该理解成基于技术研究和训练的通讯，不可以用于个人业务。

BI4KSR

Then why don't you use a shared radio or the 409 segment instead?

Liridice

Why don't you ask?~~Wonderful Snail~~What is the Minister's email address?

This type of explanation, which involves departmental regulations, will not be directly addressed by official sources unless there is a specific need to clarify the meaning. Therefore, our discussion here is unlikely to have any practical impact.

BG6XVJ

Report the call sign every ten minutes, and leave enough time between reports to accommodate emergency needs. It's a waste not to use it when no one is available.

BG2GFC

If you and your friends are all HAM radio operators, you could easily choose a frequency that no one else uses.
If you already call each other by call sign to call sign, that's even better; report once every ten minutes.

Use UV to avoid those specific segments for satellite/EME communication; you can choose any one.

BG4TRF

For a long time, isn't it FT8? Some people like to leave their computers running all day, while they use their phones.

Angkor

Which "Article 41" did the original poster refer to?
《Regulations for the Administration of Amateur Radio Stations》 (Ministry of Industry and Information Technology No. 67)
Article 3: Amateur radio stations are only for mutual communication, technical research, and self-training, and must operate within the amateur business frequency range. They may not be used to obtain commercial profits.

Also, understand what "hobby business" means.
43 types of radio services defined by official standards (Source: Ministry of Industry and Information Technology website)
https://www.miit.gov.cn/jgsj/wgj/kpzs/art/2024/art_35493b55855e4a28b0517d6e21c2d605.html

39. Hobbies non-professional service
This refers to the business of radio communication for amateur radio enthusiasts, allowing them to practice self-training, communicate with each other, and conduct technical research. Amateur radio enthusiasts are defined as individuals who have been formally approved and have a genuine interest in radio technology, but their interest is purely for personal enjoyment and does not involve any profit-seeking activities.

40 Amateur satellite business amateur satellite service
Utilize space radio stations on Earth satellites to conduct wireless communication with the same purpose as amateur radio operators.

The above clearly defines the content of communication between "amateur radio stations," with the core being:Must adhere to the principles of "hobby business".This primarily involves technical exchange and learning, as well as research related to amateur radio, for example:Use of wireless equipment, antenna installation, space communication, DX communication, competitions, and related communication content.。

Regardless of whether or not a person possesses a relevant certificate, engaging in activities that violate the purpose of "amateur business," such as setting up, using, and communicating for the purpose of conducting amateur business, constitutes illegal and irregular behavior.

For example, many car enthusiasts, hiking groups, certain rescue organizations, and others, in order to...Avoiding the risks associated with unlicensed use of radio equipment....The use of amateur radio stations is limited to communication related to team coordination, teammate communication, and training for rescue operations.

Someone might say that rescue can be used with... Correct! This aligns with the use of radio in "emergency situations," without restriction to professional, amateur, or whether a full-scale operation is underway.

A specific rescue team, performing routine rescue missions."Reservation", "Frequently"Using amateur frequencies for coordinating tasks constitutes unauthorized communication and does not meet the conditions of "emergency," therefore it is an illegal and irregular activity.

Fellow hikers, fellow drivers, and so on – all this is simply for "communication purposes".Not interested in "hobby business".However, this involves using a ham radio setup.

In 2025, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology launched a new business for civilian "shared radios," and the above applications can be considered based on the purpose of "communication needs."
Operating frequency: Within the 406.21–407.70 MHz band, with a power of 5W, it is planned to have 120 or 240 single-frequency simplex channels.

For close-range, on-site communication needs, consider using a 409 MHz two-way radio with 0.5W power.

someham

Let me say a few things that might be politically incorrect:

Amateur radio U-band frequencies, when divided into narrow bands, can be divided into over 500 channels. Although there is always talk of limited spectrum resources, from the current situation, having 500 channels within the range of a two-way radio is sufficient for enthusiasts to use, not to mention the V-band which has not been accounted for. As for any other communication needs that illegally occupy amateur frequencies, interference is not a concern. "Mutual communication, technical research, and self-training" are independent, so your assumption that "mutual communication should be understood as communication based on technical research and training, and cannot be used for personal business" is incorrect.

As for the impact on emergency situations… I said that the chances of needing a ham radio for emergencies are very low, especially when you're using a specific frequency out of hundreds. The probability of sending an SOS signal on that particular frequency is even lower. And even if something does happen, you and your friend could potentially hear each other's signals during conversations, which is actually beneficial.

The situation that truly needs to be considered is when a repeater occupies frequencies for extended periods, which can disrupt others. It's important not to engage in prolonged conversations on the repeater.

The above are purely my personal opinions. I welcome other viewers to add their own perspectives and insights (debate?).

BG2GFC

someham
I support your point of view; "mutual communication" is included within the scope of amateur business activities.
In fact, when meeting enthusiasts offline, I often hear them say things like, "Where are you now?" or "I'm not sure, have you seen any maps of the area?"
From some perspectives, this has already become "non-hobby" activity.

I was supposed to meet someone to go satellite hunting, but they canceled at the last minute.
We discussed and finalized our positions and the subsequent satellite communication plan on the radio.
Isn't this just normal communication? There shouldn't be any problems, and we both chose absolutely deserted, perfect locations.🤣

BG6HFD

Mutual communication refers to enthusiasts communicating with each other. However, there are restrictions on the content of this communication. Specifically:

Article 3 of the Regulations for Amateur Radio Stations: Amateur radio stations are only permitted for mutual communication, technical research, and self-training. They must operate within the amateur frequency range and cannot be used for commercial purposes.
Article 35: Entities or individuals using amateur radio stations shall use clear language, abbreviations, acronyms, and publicly recognized technical terms and communication protocols that are common in the amateur radio field during communication.
Article 36: Entities or individuals using amateur radio stations shall truthfully record the communication time, frequency, mode, and objects of communication in the amateur radio station log and retain it for at least 2 years.
Article 37: Units or individuals using amateur radio stations shall transmit their station call sign at the beginning and end of each communication, and periodically (with intervals not exceeding 10 minutes) during the communication.
Encourage amateur radio stations to automatically transmit their call signs using technical means during periods of communication.
Article 43: No unit or individual shall use amateur radio stations for the following activities:
(1) Disseminating or publishing information that violates any laws or regulations prohibiting its dissemination or publication, regardless of the form in which it is disseminated.
...
(8) Providing to foreign organizations or individuals information about domestic radio parameters that relate to national security.
(9) Other activities prohibited by law and administrative regulations.

It should not be used for commercial gain. Simply put, the ultimate purpose of Tonglian is not to make money (for example, hotels and restaurants). When communicating, do not use offensive language or attempt encryption; instead, maintain detailed logs, record all communication details, including call signs and numbers exchanged during the communication process, as well as any information that legal regulations prohibit from being published or disseminated.
(The basic prerequisites, such as a fixed location for the amateur radio station, verification of equipment, and both parties being amateur radio operators, are not relevant to the discussion of communication content.)

Regarding prolonged use, I had heard that the radio administration (無管) considered continuous transmissions to be a form of interference. Based on this understanding, it was used to determine whether the transmission falls under the category of broadcasting.
Some busy repeater stations set up administrators to manage the communication, and when there are many members online for extended periods, they will send reminders. This is part of maintaining order on the repeater station. Repeaters can also handle late-night conversations and respond effectively to emergencies.
If you have friends who are not amateur radio enthusiasts but simply want to communicate while out and about, using public 409 or shared walkie-talkies is a much simpler option. It doesn't require passing any exams, making it significantly more accessible.

ba7ck

Which regulation states that you cannot communicate for a long time? If there's no prohibition, then it's permissible.

BI3QAC

短时间报一下位置，偶尔聊一两句，别当电话用，别造成有害干扰。不符合规定，但也别太过分就可以。

BG6XVJ

BI3QAC 当电话用其实也是合法合规的，只是不倡导长时间占用频率，导致其他人不能用。没人用的时候自然可以随便用，不用反而是种浪费。
真不让长时间占用，卫星SSTV都可以抵制了

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