想去户外短波野架，不是很喜欢正V得带个灯架（3~5kg的重量），搞得根本都不便携。目前测试这么几个：有个GP，但是5.6m的，40m波段就没法达到1/4波长，需要再接个线圈加感在楼顶拉了根做End Fed Random Wire，那个尺寸，目前只能当固定天线用想尝试的是rybakov antenna，大概是另外一种End Fed Random Wire，有架设过的台友吗？杆子是怎么搞定的？[upl-image-preview uuid=6bbaf456-096d-4730-bd9e-b51c95a48999 url=https://storage.hamcq.cn/2026-07-26/1785068608-368107-images.jpg alt={TEXT?}]

用4:1巴伦我记得是要配合天调使用的，想要便携又想效率高这本来就是伪命题，只能取舍

@"BH5UNT"#p100075 感谢这个思路，我也想过这样做只是抄网杆得用玻璃钢的不导电，用碳素的杆子由于导电会影响那根线的阻抗的

@"BG7MGW"#p100105 是的，rybakov 天线本质是个多波段天线，它不可能在每个波段达到自然谐振，但天调携带起来可比带若干重得要死的棍子好多了

@"BH8GLQ"#p100226 那你可以直接买铝合金的抄网杆直接做振子，我觉得应该可以

My experience building antennas

BH8GLQ

I'd like to go on a shortwave radio outing, but I don't really want to have to carry around a lamp stand (3_{(Weighing 5 kg), making it completely inconvenient to carry.}
The following tests have been conducted so far:
There's a GP, but it's a 5.6m one. It can't achieve a 40m wavelength, so I need to add another coil and capacitor.
I strung up a random wire antenna on the roof, using that particular size. Currently, it can only be used as a fixed antenna.
I'm interested in trying out the Rybakov antenna, which seems to be another type of End-Fed Random Wire antenna. Has anyone else tried it and had success? If so, how did you set up the support structure for the antenna?

BH5UNT

提供一种思路：钓鱼佬用的抄网杆或高枝采果用的伸缩杆（选碳纤维的会比不锈钢的轻便很多，反正不承重）。

关于固定：如果周边是土壤，就拉绳打地钉，如果是硬质水泥地面（且打算较长期架设），可以考虑广告旗杆的底座，有种可以注沙或注水的，或者路上能看到那种用润滑脂桶子浇水泥进去中间留个洞的玩意儿（一般用来插遮阳伞的） ……
架设时小心周边电气安全。

BH8GLQ

BH5UNT
Thank you for this idea; I was also considering doing something similar.
The use of fiberglass poles, which are non-conductive, for overhead power lines is preferable to using carbon fiber poles, as the conductive nature of carbon fiber would affect the impedance of the wire.

BG7MGW

When using a 4:1 Bauer, I remember that it's intended to be used with the "Sky Adjust" system. If you want portability and high efficiency, this is essentially an impossible combination; you have to compromise.

BH8GLQ

BG7MGW
Yes, the Rybakov antenna is essentially a multi-band antenna, and it cannot achieve natural resonance in every band. However, the antenna is much more convenient to carry around than a set of multiple, individually tuned antennas.

BG7MGW

BH8GLQ Alternatively, you could directly purchase aluminum alloy fishing rod supports and use them to build a vibrating device; I think this should be feasible.

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