11月可以到考B级的时间了，想拿到新操作证后尽快把HF的设台手续办完，不知道各位有没有推荐的入门短波机器，对价格比较敏感。未来主攻方向是野架 SSB CW FT8，还请各位友台指点一二，感谢！

八重洲的华东代理推荐短波入门机FT710😀 B站等YOUTUBE对此电台的讲解很多 [upl-image-preview url=https://storage.hamcq.cn/2023-11-16/1700110742-618773-1700110749659.png]

FT-891，协谷G90S。这个可以嘛？都是便携，入门的短波机器。适合野架 SSB CW FT8 。 891使用FT8需要扩展配件，G90S更适合一些。 891的瓦数大于G90S 更友好一些。价格891 4880元 G90S 2560元。两部机器都可车载，背负。属于便携电台。您也可以在看看其他的

@"BG2LLI"#p4781 请教您下，G90S、X6100除了发射功率有其他区别吗

@"BH7HQT"#p4785 怎么说呢，也大也不大，一般都不建议小功率入坑，通联不上会有挫败感😃

@"BI3QIY"#p4788 在想25W+功放的模式是不是合适，也不知道这种要怎么办执照

QRP电台现在一个优点就是可以快速拿B的执照。我用818在本地申请的B类执照，半个月拿证。710需要到工信部申请，到现在半年了，还没动静。

@"BH7HQT"#p4789 【【教程】如何申请工信部短波业余电台执照？-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/zwJh5DY 申请执照的可以参考这个视频，视频里讲解的很清楚

上891吧至少玩个几年亏不了多少至于QRP电台除了ICOM 八重洲的其他的到时想转手呵呵难

@"BH2VYJ"#p4795 回答的很全面👍

@"BI3QIY"#p4788 BI3QIY说的对。尽量功率大一些吧。

Choosing an HF entry-level setup machine

BH7HQT

I'm planning to take the B-class exam in November, and I want to get my new operating license as soon as possible. I'm also looking for recommendations for a good entry-level shortwave radio, but I'm sensitive about price.
My future primary focus will be on SSB CW and FT8 for amateur radio, and I would appreciate any guidance or suggestions from fellow operators. Thank you!

BI4JJO

BH7HQT

BH2VYJ 学习了

BG5CEO

BG7NOD

BG5CEO 这个机器和DX10比呢，DX10值得贵出的价格吗？还是说710就够了？

BG2LLI

FT-891, along with the G90S. Is this a good combination? They are both portable, entry-level shortwave radios suitable for handheld SSB and CW (Morse code) operation using FT8. The 891 requires additional accessories for use with FT8, while the G90S is better suited for some applications.

The wattage of 891 is greater than G90S, and it's also more user-friendly.

Price: 891 4880 yuan, G90S 2560 yuan.

Both units can be carried and worn on the back. They are portable radios.

You can also take a look at the others.

BH7HQT

BG2LLI Could you please tell me if, besides transmission power, there are any other differences between the G90S and X6100?

BI3QIY

BH7HQT To put it another way, they're neither too big nor too small, and I generally don't recommend beginners buying low-power models. If you can't connect them, it will be a disappointing experience.😃

BH7HQT

BI3QIY I'm wondering if a 25W+ amplifier setup would be suitable, and I also don't know how to obtain the necessary permits for this.

BG2LLI

BI3QIY BI3QI is right. It's best to aim for a higher power level.

BG5CEO

BH7HQT [Tutorial] How to apply for a shortwave amateur radio license from the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology? - Bilibili https://b23.tv/zwJh5DY
Those who are applying for a license can refer to this video. The video clearly explains the process.

BH2WMZ

One advantage of QRP radio is that it allows for a quick application process for a B-class license. I was able to obtain my B-class license in about half a month using the 818 system, while applying for a similar license through the 710 system required me to go through the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (工信部), but it has been six months with no progress yet.

BH2VYJ

Yaesu FT-710：最便宜的大屏百瓦机，买新不买旧，双十一天空家，加上淘金币，最低价格可以做到6800，十分实惠。
Yaesu FTdx-10：相当于710的plus版吧，一万出头。
icom 7300：一代经典，百瓦机，大屏，ham中保有量巨大
Yaesu FT-891：几乎是最便宜的百瓦机了，点阵屏，无内置天调，双十一天空家大概4500左右。
flexradio一系列的机器，都是好机器，太贵了。
协谷G90s：SDR架构，小彩屏，可以看频谱，20瓦，双十一天空家2000出头，性价比不错。
icom 705：HF+UV全段全模式，支持Dstar数字模式，功率10瓦，可以像手台一样使用。
协谷X6100：SDR架构，大屏，10瓦，内置天调，内置电池，可以像手台一样使用，双十一天空家3500左右。
协谷G106c：小机器，5瓦，价格1000出头，最便宜的，有核准码的，成品新机。

最后三个机器，由于功率小于15瓦，可以走本地验机流程，一般情况下一周左右（最多不超过一个月）就能下证，而上面那些机器，都是要走工信部流程的，可能要折腾半年以上。

如果你想2年后尽快考C证，那么先用小功率机器在本地申请一个执照，然后再去慢慢折腾工信部流程。如果你恰巧财力雄厚，可以考虑icom 705，如果就是想设个台，并不打算玩小功率，那么可以先用G106c搞个证。

如果你不想折腾工信部流程，可以考虑小功率电台加功放的模式，目前功放并不需要验机，所以可以当作钻空子来操作。

BH4ERY

BH2VYJ The answer is comprehensive.👍

BH7HQT

BH2VYJ Thank you for your guidance!

BH4GTG

BH2VYJ A very clear and helpful answer. I've also recently been considering purchasing a shortwave radio, and have learned a lot in the process.

BH8AVW

Invest in 891. At least, you won't lose much if you play for a few years.

Regarding QRP radios, besides the ICOM eight-tone radio, I'm interested in buying others later on. Haha, it seems difficult.

BI6MBP

During the Double Eleven sale, I bought a G90S on Sky, and was able to pay with my bank account for purchases over 2000-100. I also added some gold coins to reach the total. I purchased it for 1900. I spent 500 on a used JPC-7 with a standard antenna and a PAC-12 conversion kit. I bought a plastic dashboard for 60, and silver wire (50-3) for 40. I also found a fishing rod case to hold the antenna. Currently, I am going through the inspection process at the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology. After submitting my application three days ago, there has been no further movement.

BH4ERY

BI6MBP The 1900 model was quite affordable; I bought a used one on Xianyu for 2000 yuan. I'm not sure if it will still be available at that price during the Double 12 sale.

BH4FCY

BI6MBP You could try using a provincial testing facility.

BG8LID

Are there any affordable used older equipment recommendations that can be used for obtaining a license?

BH4ERY

BG8LID Let's check out the IC-718; it's a 100W machine and has an approved code.

BH9BZB

I personally recommend the FT891 from Baizhou. It's portable and has sufficient power for mobile use. However, I'm also wondering if the newer versions of the FT891 are worth upgrading to, as I'm still debating whether or not to buy one.😀

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