2025年4月28日我在辽宁政务服务网（https://www.lnzwfw.gov.cn/）申请办理了业余无线电台设置、使用和业余电台呼号指配变更(台站呼号)，，申请编号为：210000000000-000107012000-20250428*********（该部分简要概括），我办理的是个人账号申请个人执照变更，同年4月30日，我使用法人账号申请办理了单位新设台业务，2025年5月22日我查询办理进度时发现办件状态由“办理中”变为“不通过”，不予批准原因：为您（单位、个人）于2025-04-28提交的关于《无线电台（站）设置、使用许可》审批事项的无线电台（站）设置、使用许可申请。经审查，因不符合行业规范#单位设台要以单位的名义提供材料组织机构代码证等，不能以个人名义申请，现决定不予批准。这一回复本人是怎么也没能想出受理单位是怎么想出的，在当日，本人办理单位设台被打回补正（打回和不通过都是在承诺办结期限只剩一天的情况下打回的），我没有超过一个小时就补正了，也与该处工作人员多次沟通，在6月5号才收证。办理流程不符合相关规定，本人5月22日遂向辽宁省沈阳铁路运输法院提起行政诉讼，法院在6月3日立案审核通过，6月5日立案，案号为（2025）辽7101行初2**号，在立案后，辽宁省工业和信息化厅当天就接收了补正。目前案件正在进行当中，如有后续进展本人更新本帖，、相关图片稍后晚间在本贴发送

5月22日查询进度为“不通过”，5月22日起诉，兄台，你是不是有点着急另外看你呼号是北京下的，在辽宁办的变更？

@"Bi4KKF"#p68990 友台您好，有没有可能是这件事渊源很深？二区呼号BH2XYW，我多次沟通无果后才提起诉讼的😄😄

@"BI1VHV"#p68967 （2025）辽7101行初2**号，电脑笔误，在此更正

@"Bi4KKF"#p68990 二区的呼号是BH2XYW😅，再此给您解释说明一下，这个问题我在起诉前早已和当地的无委会和省厅的多个部门共计沟通了数十次，沟通无果后才采取的法律途径，在本案过程中辽宁省工业和信息化厅在处理办过程中程序不合规，违反了2024年1月18日中华人民共和国工业和信息化部令第67号公布业余无线电台管理办法第十三条，本条帖子的初衷也是回应我们二区的一些友台，和向那些也遭遇类似问题的一些HAM给一点参考案例。希望空中常遇！

前情概要呢？没太看懂，一会个人一会法人，然后看样子你有两个呼号？单纯没看懂，没别的意思，前排插眼观望

@"[未知用户]"#p69012 个人是执照变更，法人是新设台，双呼号换一期统一讲，之前讲过不少次了

A brief introduction to my lawsuit against the Liaoning Province Department of Industry and Information Technology.

BI1VHV

On April 28, 2025, I accessed the Liaoning Government Service Network (https://www.lnzwfw.gov.cn/) Applied for the establishment, use, and change of amateur radio station call sign (station call sign), application number: 210000000000-000107012000-20250428*******(This section provides a brief summary): I applied for an individual account and changed my license. On April 30, 2024, I used the legal representative's account to apply for a new company establishment business. When I checked the progress on May 22, 2025, I found that the application status had changed from "processing" to "rejected," with the reason being: Your (company/individual) application for the establishment and use license of a radio station (station), submitted on April 28, 2025, regarding the approval of "[Radio Station (Station) Establishment, Use License]". After review, it was determined that it did not comply with industry regulations – companies must provide materials such as organizational codes in their own name and cannot apply under individual names. Therefore, we have decided to reject your application. I am surprised by this decision, as I had no idea how the company would arrive at this conclusion. On that day, my application for establishing a company was rejected (both "rejected" and "not approved" were due to the remaining only one day of the promised completion period), but I corrected it within an hour, and I also communicated with the staff multiple times. I only received the license on June 5th.
The process followed did not comply with the relevant regulations. On May 22, I filed an administrative lawsuit against the Liaoning Province Shenyang Railway Transport Court. The court reviewed and approved the case on June 3, and formally accepted the case on June 5, with case number:（2025）Vehicle ID: LIAO7101, Initial Position: 2The license number was received by the Liaoning Province Department of Industry and Information Technology on the same day after the application was filed.
The case is currently ongoing. I will update this post with any further developments.
Related images will be sent later in the evening on this post.

BI1VHV

BI1VHV （2025）Line 7101, character 2, typo – please correct.

BG9JXB

Followed

BH2VSQ

Okay, okay ( )

Bi4KKF

On May 22nd, the status was "not approved," and a lawsuit was initiated on May 22nd. To my esteemed colleagues, are you experiencing some urgency?
Also, I see that your callsign is registered in Beijing, but you are applying for a change of address in Liaoning?

BI1VHV

Bi4KKF Dear colleague, could this matter have a deep origin? The callsign for Zone 2 is BH2XYW. I only initiated legal action after multiple unsuccessful attempts to communicate with them.😄😄

BI1VHV

Bi4KKF The call sign for Zone 2 is BH2XYW.😅To clarify this further, I want to explain that I had already communicated with the local "No-Wei" (local radio regulatory authority) and multiple departments of the provincial government dozens of times before filing the lawsuit. After these attempts proved unsuccessful, I was forced to pursue legal action. During the handling of this case, the Liaoning Province Department of Industry and Information Technology violated Article 13 of the "Management Regulations for Amateur Radio Stations" promulgated by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology on January 18, 2024, which is a violation of established procedures. The purpose of this post is also to provide some reference cases for our friends in District Two and other amateur radio operators who have encountered similar problems. I hope it will be helpful!

Bi4KKF

BI1VHV
I think I'm just bored too.

1、In the post on the first floor, you did not mention the numerous times you have communicated with 無委.
The initial application was made on April 28, 2023, as an individual.
Then, on April 30th, we submitted an application for a club radio station under the name of the company (currently understood as a "club radio station").
On May 22nd, the collective station applied for "rejection".
On the same day, you filed a lawsuit.
June 3rd: Court review accepted (personal understanding: passing the review means acceptance)
June 5th - Stock received (I don't understand what "receiving a stock" means, what kind of certificate am I receiving? An old one? Or some kind of evidence?)
June 5th, same day, established.
After filing the application, 無委 has received your supplementary information.
2. Are my call sign in Zone 1 and my call sign in Zone 2 both valid at the same time? I'm not sure if a person can have (multiple) "personal call signs" simultaneously. Could you please point me to the relevant regulation?
3、BI1VHV Dual callsign (I understand that this refers to both a personal callsign and a club callsign) You said, "I've mentioned this before," and I was also curious to see your forum post history. Besides today's post, all previous posts were about changing callsigns. Could you please explain the relationship between setting up a station with a legal entity and your personal callsign? Does one refer to equipping yourself with a device, and the other refers to equipping yourself with a device belonging to the company where the legal entity is registered? If I obtain a callsign that was applied for by the legal entity, what is the relationship between that and my own callsign?
4, I was curious and checked the court's website. Perhaps I didn't understand, but I couldn't find any information related to the case filing. Could the relevant documents, such as the complaint or the case filing materials, be displayed within the specified scope? Currently, I don't understand what's going on.
5, I also feel like I have nothing better to do, so I want to see how this situation unfolds for my own amusement. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Shiro

So, to summarize what I understand so far: it seems like there's a mix of personal and corporate references, and that you might have two different call signs?

I simply didn't understand; there was no other meaning behind it. I was just observing from the front row.

BI1VHV

Shiro For individuals, this refers to a change of license; for legal entities, it refers to the establishment of a new company. The explanation covers both scenarios in detail, and has been provided multiple times before.

BI1VHV

Bi4KKF I still haven't understood; I filed a lawsuit because my personal license was rejected by that office, as explained on the first floor. The reason for rejection is also stated there. It wasn't the collective station that was rejected.
1 I don't understand what "receiving a certificate" means. What kind of certificate am I receiving? Is it an old certificate, or some kind of evidence?
Re: Regarding the certificate – This refers to the department's request for me to rectify my application. They are requesting the corrected materials.
2. As I have mentioned before, this has been discussed repeatedly in various WeChat groups, particularly those related to Liaoning.

BI1VHV

Bi4KKF I am currently organizing the lawsuit documents and related materials, and I will be able to post them on this thread as soon as tonight. I am also sending out the initial filing materials now. The numerous communications between "无委" (the local radio regulatory authority) and the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology refer specifically to the two cases being handled, which is a simple description of the lawsuit process. More detailed information is still being prepared.🙏

BG2VAR

Bi4KKF I'm in the same group as this guy, and I don't really understand what his concerns are. Maybe someone else knows, but it seems like they're talking about changing both individual licenses and collective radio licenses together. Are these two separate things? I just can't make sense of it. I'll keep observing and try to learn more about the relevant laws and regulations.

Bi4KKF

So, you need to clearly explain the situation and its background here. We are not in your group, so we can only understand from the text you post on the forum.
Understanding your position
Even when watching gossip, it's important to understand what's happening, right?

BI1VHV

Bi4KKF It takes a long time to write, and I need time.😭This is just a preliminary release; I will compile all the materials and distribute them to this forum in one go.

BI1VHV

Bi4KKF C证大佬，内容已更新，这次看看还有没有吃不明白的瓜我继续讲解。
晚一些再讲解如果其他友台遇到这种情况该怎么维护自己的权益进行交涉或者是行政复议或行政诉讼

BI1VHV

BG2VAR Two applications processed by different departments of the Administration for Market Regulation (工信厅) were mixed up, and he requested that one be withdrawn and a new decision made. The three call signs belong to a collective amateur radio station.

Bi4KKF

BI1VHV
不是我抬杠哈
看到无线电台（站）设置、使用许可-不予批准告知单
明显这个是针对集体台设立的，或者说单位设台
申请方李某（楼主）明显就不对，申请方应该是公司名义
截图下面的申请表里面
企业名称 “空” 组织机构代码证 “空” 联系人是楼主
以个人名义去申请集体台，明显是要被拒绝的，不管你是不是以法人身份登录的政务网
虽然每个地方政务网不通，政策解读和执行人不同，用个人去申请集体台，明显手续不对
所以人家回复您“单位设台要以单位名义提供材料组织机构代码证等，不能以个人名义申请”我觉得这是合理的

BG2VAR
我以吃瓜群众理解的是，
楼主拥有北京呼号，24年8月来辽宁设置集体台，得知他的手续还没办结情况下
其他人的呼号手续办理完了，就剩下他们几个了，给我感觉这是明显带节奏，人家五位的办的快？非得投诉了才给他办的
可不可能人家手续相对简单？延续和变更一般就是比新设需要的东西少，
假设哈，如有雷同纯属巧合：会不会有这么个情况，跟我一开始说的，以法人名义登录，申请集体台，填写的里面没有填法人公司信息，只填了个人信息，这个个人信息是申请人，并非技术负责人，毕竟这个申请表基本全国一样格式，打开原表就能看出来区别，办事的也蒙圈了，平时都是个人账号填这些，这次来了个法人账号登录，申请填了呼号申请，最后经过研究，没填单位信息，判定为个人申请呼号，给楼主下了个呼号（毕竟嘛，懂的都懂，不细聊）。处理的慢，就像考试一样简单得题都做完了，后面的难题，挠着头做，最后还被人找回来了，这种事本身办的少，各种研究，糊弄过去就行了

转眼来到25年4月，这人又来办变更加新设，新设集体台还是填写个人信息，毕竟上次判定错了，这次给呼号不可能了，法规规定个人不能申请集体台，驳回理由这回满分，没毛病！个人台的那个，咋解释，第一题题目答案一样，第二题又来了一个题目答案一样的，这是闹哪样，不知道后台什么样，是否一样的标题，如果是，我也分不出哪个是个人台哪个是集体台，都给回了

谁知道这人起手就是个起诉，后来，后来，这事前面总结了不多说了

BI1VHV
劝您一句，一个巴掌拍不响，一个表没填对，一个没办过这种流程（毕竟集体台一年能办几次），凡事多研究多沟通，有些事多请教，不管是办事人员还是本地爱好者，经验很重要
假设我做，我起手就先把2区呼号注销了，这东西没用，给俩呼号又不能升职加薪，还给自己多个麻烦，三个呼号很牛嘛？这个圈子高人有的是，人家一个呼号照样受人尊敬。
注销完了我在申请集体台
然后根据无委反馈问题，问清楚之前办理过集体台的爱好者，请教好流程注意事项，再填一次
哪怕被驳回，找找问题，改进一下，确实集体台和中继台这种手续要的比个人呼号复杂很多，这个我有经验，多的没法说。
再一个，起手投诉、起诉这种方式真的很极端，我要是办事人员，这种越极端我越得谨慎处理，还怕说错了，只能捡大路边的说，宁可不说，也不说错。

我理解楼主要借此事优化无委的流程的想法，其实没有啥事是不可以面对面沟通的。
而且千万不要带节奏，人家五位呼号都过了，我这不给过，题型和难度不同嘛。
您觉得您立案，督促完了撤销就完事了，人家政务网里面有没有内部追责流程，您撤销立案，人家不追责不找漏洞了吗？就没人认为您是要借此机会给自己涨涨名声？还是您想在无委那边挂上个刺头的称号？

这个帖子我也不再回了，楼主自己想清楚吧，我最后劝楼主联系版主锁帖，或者找版主降权，封贴完事吧。我觉得我还是闲得蛋疼

BG2VAR

BI1VHV I understood that the situation was like this: the relevant authorities were not approving your application, but you hadn't mentioned it before. You had been saying that the personal license and the collective radio station expansion were mixed up, and that the application had not been approved, which made things confusing. Perhaps you knew what was going on, but outsiders couldn't understand. However, when you explained that the relevant authorities had confused the two matters and then hadn't approved your application, everyone understood.

BI1VHV

BG2VAR We shouldn't say that so bluntly; we all know what happened, and we shouldn't make vague statements like "it's unclear." I didn't post anything because of that. However, they said that they had made it easy to understand.

BI1VHV

这件事情需要从24年8月开始说起，24年八月，我新设集体台，而且在这个办件中当时前后的办件都已经办结了，只剩我们中间的三四个没有办结，前后都是五位的呼号，而我们的一直没有审批，后来通过厅长信箱反应给我们办理了，这个办件也给集体电台办成技术负责人的了，导致我个人多了一个二区的呼号，现在是都是有效的，我多次联系各级部门，辽宁方面支支吾吾的也没有给出解决办法，有几次工作时间打电话转接到个人电话，工作时间接听的说我在吃饭，让下午再打，下午打不是接不通就是负责的人不在。（这时候就开始卡我的办件了，前后都办结剩我们中间几个，不找部门反应他们也不办）
后来我想了想，做出行政行为的单位都不着急我着什么急，而且这个呼号在下发后也没有使用过，我也就没有管。
时间来到今年四月，我去新办单位设台，寻思了一下我又给我个人的执照做了变更B类的手续，在葫芦岛市无线电管理委员会办公室验机时无委给省厅无线电管理处打电话咨询单位设台手续及流程，并告知有个葫芦岛要办单位台的，给我办理了相关验机手续后下午我使用辽事通分别使用个人账户和法人账户提交了申请，并且打电话告知了工信厅说我是两个办件，工信厅行政审批处下午给我来了电话，问办件的情况，我如实说明了，并且又强调了是两个号的办件，是两件事，挂断电话就都受理了。
在此期间我又给无线电管理处打了不少次电话，咨询办件进度，并且和无线电管理处的沟通过单位设台事项，也和他们强调了这是两个办件。
2025年5月22号，下午我登录系统查看进度，发现个人的给我打回了，说个人不可以申请集体台，但是我个人账号申请的是执照变更，我随即给无线电管理处打了电话，无线电管理处声称是我多了材料，多材料的话也不告知我多什么材料，多材料的话行政审批处也不会受理啊，网用我的账号查看不到材料，他们也不说，我随即给行政审批处打电话了，行政审批处让我重新提交，重新交他们让无线电管理处单独办理，提交后审批处说材料没有问题，我现在给你受理了，挂断电话十多分钟后我法人账户提交的设置集体台的让补正，这里插入个发条，工信部六十七号令十三条规定了，五个工作日内接受材料，如果材料有问题一次性告知申请人需要补正的材料，这时办件已经受理了十四个工作日了，次日就是承诺办结限期了，他们给打回补正，我当时就补正并且电话联系沟通多次，都是敷衍的回复，补正材料也不接收，一直是补正反馈，五个工作日接收的材料一直拖到了八个工作日，我如果不起诉个人办件的问题的话他们还可以继续拖。

BI1VHV

Could you please explain the reasons for my lawsuit?
I have had several dealings with the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology. If I hadn't directly sued, this matter would likely have been ignored indefinitely. After I filed a lawsuit, they initiated proceedings in the morning and then rectified it in the afternoon. They were simply delaying and stalling, and both the individual application process and the corporate application process were illegal because they didn't reject my individual application; therefore, I only filed one lawsuit as the plaintiff to challenge the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology's administrative decision denying my individual application to the Shenyang Railway Transport Court.
Whether a lawsuit is effective or not, if we don't file one, there's no way to proceed. Filing a lawsuit isn't about going to court; it's simply to urge the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology to process things as quickly as possible.
I didn't file a complaint against the agency because filing a complaint with them also means they handle it themselves, which is useless. I also didn't apply for an administrative review; instead, I went straight to administrative litigation. The purpose wasn't to overturn the decision, but rather to use litigation as a means of seeking mediation through the courts. This is the most effective way. (Administrative Litigation - Pre-Litigation Mediation)

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