这不是全国的电报业务马上要全部关停了吗，但是肯定有人会喊着历史啊情怀啊什么的继续寻求发电报的途径… 我们能不能在各个省市组织一些玩CW的蛤蟆们，找一个人少的短波频率，每周找个时间组个网络发电报，收一点点服务费（这就不属于盈利行为），再加上邮费（挂号再让客户额外加钱）… 这样既不违反业余无线电的规定，还找到了推广业余无线电的办法，还正好赶上杭州的那一波流量… 算了越写越感觉不切实际… **发出来图一乐呵，求别骂太狠**

@"Liridice"#p58965 确实，搜了一下公众电报业务属于电信基础业务中的公共数据传送，需要取得基础电信业务经营许可证，由工信部颁发。没有的话罚款 10 万起步。但问题是这是个根本取得不了的证，因为[upl-image-preview uuid=0b589d38-0a90-4ee8-9dcf-10f9ab46d680 url=https://storage.hamcq.cn/2025-03-30/1743351273-400375-2025-03-31-001355.png alt={TEXT?}]

拿cw敲中文电报码发手都断了

@"BG5ELQ"#p58922 RTTY也行吧（

电报业务好歹有历史传承和国有企业背书，咱自己搞的算啥啊哈哈哈或许可以去工信部搞个许可出来，就看工信部批不批了，可能性几乎没有。（谁在杭州，我想整个杭州电信的电报发到山东来据说山东联通还能收，有偿）

@"BI4PAT"#p58928 真的假的，我还以为只能发杭州/北京呢我过两天打算去营业厅看看，可以联系我👍

传播开通时的歪果仁：“？”

@"BI4PAT"#p58928 我过完年的时候去就只通北京和杭州本地了

@"BG5CVB"#p58931 麻烦你加我一下微信吧，搜我呼号就行

@"BG5CVB"#p58931 就是只能杭州北京

I have an idea: All nationwide telegraph services are about to be shut down completely...

BA7LCE

My assessment is that the neural network...

BG5JFI

{交寄回执}

@BH8GIO I have sent it.

BH8GIO

BG5JFI Big brother, you are my big brother. I pay my respects to you.

BD3QID

BG5JFI Actually, this type of minister's mailbox is quite good. I feel that the response time for paper letters is very long; it takes me two or three months to get a reply each time, while the minister's mailbox responds within ten days.

BH8GIO

BG5JFI 有动静吗
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BG5JFI

BG5EGC If you're really hesitant, then don't charge anything at all. After all, considering the risks involved, charging even a small fee for labor is not worth it.
Then, only businesses have terms like "category directory" and "business license." For example, even if TUNA, a student organization at Tsinghua University, provides DNS services, it doesn't require a license (non-commercial network services only involve registration issues).

Regarding whether non-licensed individuals can transmit information through amateur radio, I have already sent a letter inquiring about this. I will wait for their response.

BG5ELQ

BG5JFI DNS666 is a whitelist; it does not allow access to all domains within the educational network.

BD4UJA

I heard that the one in Hangzhou isn't transmitted via shortwave. If you really want to do it, you could also use a network simulator. As long as you can generate Morse code sounds, you'll essentially have the same experience.

Ken

BD4UJA By the early days of civilian telegraphy, shortwave radio was no longer used. The Qing Dynasty marked the beginning of constructing a wired telegraph network. Around the 1950s-70s, electromechanical typewriters were introduced, initially using analog or digital switching networks, and later, like telephones, they adopted automatic exchange systems. After this century, all telegraphy transitioned to IP networks, becoming a purely networked (private network for operators) application.

BG5ELQ

BD4UJA It's neither shortwave nor Morse code, and I haven't seen anyone transmitting Chinese messages on any specific frequency before.

BI1WAH

Ken If telegrams are transmitted over IP networks, then what is the point of having telegraph machines? If that's the case, why do only two remaining telegraph machines still occasionally fail and cannot send or receive telegrams?

BI4PAT

BI1WAH It has now completely broken down, with both locations using Word to print in the old telegraph style. The last technical upgrade for public telegraph services by the Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications was to abandon all traditional telegraph circuits and switch to a分组交换 X.25 protocol virtual network. User telegraph services were then switched to using Telemux multiplexing equipment over the CHINADDN network. This change was announced by China Telecom in mid-2000. Subsequently, business declined and eventually disappeared naturally.

Ken

BI1WAH The technical upgrade roadmap I proposed is just a general trend, and does not represent the nationwide synchronized update and replacement of equipment. Like the telephone network, which transitioned from manual switchboards to circuit-switched networks, and then to IP networks, this was also a gradual transition involving multiple generations of technology coexisting. I am not sure what specific technologies are currently used in Hangzhou for telegraph equipment. However, I understand that Beijing is using IP (this information has also been reported by media). There are also some articles online that introduce this, such as: https://www.zhihu.com/question/21869804

However, using IP does not mean that there are no telegrams. Although it is theoretically possible to fully software the telegram transmission and reception, various reasons (such as interests of equipment vendors, system stability, and user-friendliness) have led to their "hardening" into telegram machines (similar to how firewalls and other dedicated hardware exist on IP networks, which can theoretically be implemented using ordinary servers + multiple network cards + software). While the conversion of IP-based telegram machines back to software is technically feasible, the times have already passed when telegrams were needed, so there is no motivation to restore them after damage.

BI1WAH

Ken Understood, thank you for the explanation.

BG5JFI

BH8GIO It's a girl! (running away)
Ciao～ (∠・ω< )⌒☆

BH2VYJ

Telegraph is telegraph, CW is CW, but once CW was simply a medium for telegraphy. In the 21st century, telegraph has no connection to CW at all, and amateur radio's use of CW is completely different from traditional telegraphy. Therefore, amateur radio enthusiasts should stay out of this situation where telegraph is exiting history.

BH8GIO

BG5JFI
Oh? Sister Membrane

BH3XZT

Isn't this exactly what the Americans call their "National Traffic Management System"? There's a book that mentions it.

BD4UNH

The administrator said that collecting a small amount of money doesn't constitute profit... However, this "profit" is defined by the authorities, not by you – the final interpretation belongs to XX – even if they take just one cent from you, it's considered profit.🐶

BG5JFI

BD3QID However, paper letters are definitely more formal, right? I would like to receive a paper response from MIIT.

BD3QID

BG5JFI That's true, and there was also a special stamp for incoming letters and visits, which was noticeably larger than the standard official seal. I was wondering if it would be possible to get a written response instead of just an email.

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